Judas Iscariot and the Identity of the Son of Perdition
Question: On your Ask a Theologian program, you talked about Judas. Here is a different take on him. John 17:12: "While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled." Acts 1:25 (about the replacement by Matthias): "That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place." Clarence Larkin (in Dispensational Truth) says: if Judas and the Antichrist are both called the son of perdition, are they one and the same, or are there two sons of perdition? Turning to Revelation 11:7, we read that the beast that slays the two witnesses ascends out of the bottomless pit, the abyss. If there is only one son of perdition and Judas and Antichrist are the same, then he got in the abyss when he went to his own place. Of no other person is it said anywhere in the Scriptures that he went to his own place. Again, in Revelation 17:8, it is said, "The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition." John Phillips notes that the description "son of perdition" is applied only to one other individual, Judas Iscariot. Jesus called him "a devil," and Acts says he went "to his own place." Kenneth Wuest takes the definite article in "the son of perdition" in John 17:12 and 2 Thessalonians 2:3 as pointing to one son of perdition, not two. G. Campbell Morgan goes further and believes Judas was not an ordinary human being at all, but an incarnate fiend. Wuest maintains that Judas did not go to Sheol or Hades but to the abyss where certain spirit beings are incarcerated. Some scholars think that Judas is being tutored and prepared there for his reappearance as the Antichrist. Do you agree with that or not?
The proposal that Judas Iscariot and the final Antichrist are in some way the same person, or that Judas will reappear as the Antichrist, is an old and intriguing line of speculation. It rests on several observations:
- Both Judas and the man of sin are called "the son of perdition" (John 17:12; 2 Thessalonians 2:3).
- Acts says of Judas that he went "to his own place" (Acts 1:25), a phrase not used of anyone else.
- The beast in Revelation "ascends out of the bottomless pit" and "goes into perdition" (Revelation 11:7; Revelation 17:8, 11).
Writers such as Clarence Larkin, Kenneth Wuest, G. Campbell Morgan, and John Phillips have drawn these strands together and suggested that Judas may be a unique, fiendish figure whose destiny is bound up with the final Antichrist.
Strengths of the View
There is a certain internal coherence to the argument.
First, the shared title "the son of perdition" is striking. It appears only in connection with Judas (John 17:12) and with the man of sin (2 Thessalonians 2:3). It is more natural, at first glance, to think one unique title might denote one unique figure rather than two unrelated figures.
Second, the expression that Judas went "to his own place" is also unique. Scripture does not say this of any other person. That has led some to infer that Judas went not to the general abode of the lost, but to a specific compartment, such as the abyss, reserved for especially dangerous spirit beings.
Third, Revelation's language about the beast who "was, and is not, and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition" (Revelation 17:8) lends itself, at least superficially, to the idea of a reemergent figure whose history spans two eras. If Judas went to the abyss and the beast comes from the abyss and goes "into perdition," one can sketch a scenario in which Judas and the beast are the same personal entity.
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Taken together, these texts create a plausible framework in which Judas is more than an ordinary lost man; he might be, as Morgan suggested, an "incarnate fiend" whose career is not yet complete.
Limitations and Cautions
At the same time, this construction goes beyond what the text explicitly states.
First, the argument from the definite article ("the son of perdition") should be handled with care. Greek use of the article is complex. While Wuest is a careful grammarian, the presence of the article by itself does not compel the conclusion that there can be only one "son of perdition." In English, we might say "the king" of one era and later speak of "the king" of another era without implying they are the same individual. The article can mark a category or an office as well as a unique person.
Second, the phrase "his own place" in Acts 1:25, though unique, does not specify the abyss. It could denote the place appropriate to him in judgment, without further geographical precision. To identify it as the abyss is an inference, not a statement of the text.
Third, Revelation's description of the beast "that was, and is not, and yet is" (Revelation 17:8) and his relation to the bottomless pit is symbolic, embedded in apocalyptic imagery. Various interpretations are possible: it may refer to the continuity of an empire, the resurgence of a persecuting power, or the career of a particular demonic-empowered ruler. To equate the beast directly with Judas requires a series of interpretive choices that go beyond the plain wording.
Fourth, Judas in the Gospels displays remorse (Matthew 27:3–5). That does not fit comfortably with a fully developed Antichrist figure as presented in 2 Thessalonians 2 and Revelation 13, who appears hardened and unrepentant. One could attempt to explain this by positing stages in the fiendish development of Judas, but again this is conjecture.
A Reasonable Assessment
Putting these factors together, the "Judas as Antichrist" view stands above most popular identifications of the Antichrist (such as political figures forced into the role by numerology or coincidence). If one were to rate proposed identifications on a scale of textual plausibility, Judas would score significantly higher than speculative modern candidates. The biblical data about him, his unique descriptors, and the eschatological texts do form a serious line of inquiry.
However, the case is not airtight. It depends on:
- Treating the shared title "son of perdition" as necessarily personal-identity language, rather than as a descriptive category that could apply separately to two supremely ruinous figures.
- Reading "his own place" as the abyss specifically.
- Aligning that with Revelation's beast imagery in a strongly literal-identity sense.
These moves, while not impossible, are not demanded by the texts. They remain within the realm of speculative theology.
Therefore, I would say:
- The view that Judas will reappear as the Antichrist, or that Judas and the final man of sin are the same personal entity, is an interesting and relatively well-argued hypothesis compared to many others.
- It should be treated as a possibility, not a settled doctrine. It is not established with the kind of clarity that warrants dogmatic assertion.
- Scripture gives no explicit command to identify the Antichrist by name in advance, nor does it ground any major doctrine in knowing whether he has appeared before in history.
So I regard the Larkin–Wuest–Morgan line as a thoughtful speculation that deserves to be known and weighed, but not as something that can be affirmed with certainty. It is more plausible than most human guesses about the Antichrist, yet it falls short of decisive biblical proof.
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